This week on #SocialConfoes we chat with Tyler Hiranaka. He’ll be joining us from an island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. Tyler served as the charter president for JCI Honolulu from 2015-2016. Professionally, he is active in the fine jewelry space and also serves as a business consultant. We’ll explore what it means to establish and scale an organization, explore different different business avenues and much more…

Connect with Tyler on Linkedin. Here’s a list of the projects he mentioned in the episode:

• www.jcihonolulu.org
• www.aerohawaii.org
• www.keikidesk.com
• www.alohaispossible.com
• www.pearlandcoralhi.com
• www.higeex.com
• www.lejardinroyaux.com

Episode Overview

• 0:00 – Aloha
• 4:39 – JCI in Hawaii
• 10:25 – The Spirit of Aloha
• 13:48 – Starting a JCI Chapter in Honolulu
• 17:03 – A cool crazy project
• 18:42 – The impact of Covid on volunteering
• 27:39 – Global Networking
• 32:20 – Social Currency
• 36:45 – Finding your energy to give
• 40:42 – Scaling Business
• 46:06 – Our Appreciation for Gary V
• 54:55 – Facing Self-doubt
• 58:46 – Tyler’s Long Game

Video Version of the Episode

The Hosts

• Diego Ameerali
• Jean-Luc van Charante

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Full Transcript

Jean-luc: [00:00:19] Hello? Hello. Good evening. Good afternoon. Good morning. Aloha. Depending on where in the world you’re watching this episode, we are live with Social Confoes we’re back with a brand new edition and we’re actually live on two new channels. We’re live on Periscope on Twitter and on Twitch as well. Diego, how do you feel today?

Diego: [00:00:58] Great. I’m glad you mentioned the Aloha, because if you haven’t, I would just chime in with it and you might be wondering why Aloha, because our guest is joining us all the way from Aloha, Hawaii. And funny thing is I’ve been to the most, one of the most future time zones. And it’s really cool to now talk with someone who is in one of the most past time zones.

So it’s still bright as day there. unfortunately, we won’t see the beaches because it’s so bright that he wasn’t able to set up outside, but he’ll tell us how it is there in Hawaii in a bit. But I’m talking about none other than Tyler Hiranaka welcome Tyler. And to give a brief intro on who Tyler is.

I’d say I met Tyler, actually. I think it’s a month, a month and a half ago. We were both finalists in the JCI, creative, young entrepreneurship competition for the Americas. And unfortunately, I didn’t make the top three, but he did. And he’s continuing to represent the Americas to the world stage. So congratulations on that, Tyler.

other than that, Tyler is the charter president for JCI Honolulu. He established this chapter in 2015 and was their first president he also is a JCI Senator, one of the most honored recognitions you can get. And that’s due to all that. He contributed to the organization in the years to come.

additionally, in the professional space, he has he’s active in the fine jewelry luxury space. We’ll talk about that in a bit. That was also part of his pitch and it was really, really intriguing. And then he. Business consultation. So bear with me guys. We’re almost done there. And another fun fact here he is a practitioner of Taijiquan and I actually learned if you don’t know what  is in the west, we know it as Tai Chi, but I actually learned the word Tai-Chi Kwan a few weeks ago in my Chinese class. So I immediately saw that and like, ha that’s the actual word. So cool. Really fun pack with that being said, Tyler, welcome to Social. Confoes it’s a pleasure to have you here.

Tyler: [00:03:09] Well, Hey guys. Thank you. It’s great to be here as well. Diego and Jean-luc thank you guys for having me.

Jean-luc: [00:03:14] So we want to just jump right in, because I like your two people who participated in the JCI or active in the JCI. And when I, our charter precedent and that kind of means like, you’re the one that set up the club. Was it the first one in your area in your city? I mean, I don’t know how big the island of Honolulu is. So can you just tell us a little bit more about how that actually went about?

Tyler: [00:03:40] Yeah, so in Hawaii we have six chapters. Now we have about 300 members give or take 300 members. I set our chapter up after, you know, I think we, our chapter, the chapter that was supposed to be there was going to fail. But then I wanted to do community service. I want to give back and, and I thought, Hey, you know, since I’m already a part of this JCI thing, let me take a look at what we’re supposed to be doing.

It was a lot of work. It was a lot of fun. That’s how we got set up. So right now do you say, I want a loop where the youngest chapter? I think not, not biased at all, but I think we have the coolest projects in Hawaii. And then we’re right about 60 something members. So

Jean-luc: [00:04:15] 60 members that’s a lot. Is, is that like the, the regular size of a JCI chapter and in Hawaii?

Tyler: [00:04:22] It depends. So Hawaii, I think average is about like 20 to 30, sometimes 40. We do have one mega big chapter with like a hundred something members. I think we’re like kind of in the middle.

Jean-luc: [00:04:33] That’s, that’s pretty interesting, Diego. How big are the chapters in Suriname? Do you have any idea how big the JCI chapters are?

Diego: [00:04:39] Good that you mentioned that because if you bring that into context, we here in JCI Suriname here aren’t that much apart in terms of numbers. We also have six chapters here, and I think one now being in development right now in Commewijne one of the districts.

So that one that will be number seven. Probably this year, if all spelled I see the committees really working hard with the community there and numbers number-wise, it’s probably in dose ranges are average around 25 to 35. One of them has maybe 40 or between 40 and 50. So in, in that same range. So that, that brings the question. Like if you compare it to Size to community ratio. We have about 500,000, 600,000 people population-wise in Suriname and yeah, that the majority is concentrated in the capital. So what’s the distribution like in Hawaii how, how it’s gel, how I set up geographically, with the chapters?

Tyler: [00:05:42] No Hawaii. I think right now all the chapter I was on Oahu, like the main Metro island our demographic in Hawaii is about like 1.2, 1.3 million across the state. so in 2018, I actually had the opportunity to serve as our state president. And I’m still in discussion with making extensions on some of the outer islands because you know, I think that’s one of the big needs in the community is getting the younger guys opportunities for like leadership development and doing more in the community and stuff. So it’s still in the works. I wouldn’t say they’re quite dead in the water. But it’s a little slower moving on the outer islands, ho or who and Honolulu is definitely a more Metro, faster paced city.

Diego: [00:06:17] Wait, Metro faster phase. Do you mean more modern? A more dynamic?

Tyler: [00:06:22] I guess not. So I, I take that term since JCI USA categorize my chapter in there, but I feel like we just do a little bit more not a lot more, but I feel like there’s more population density here. So I feel like that maybe that’s what makes us more. But compared to like New York or like LA or something, we are definitely not even close.

Jean-luc: [00:06:40] Well, I just want to, I would just want to let you know because Tevin just jumped in he’s as a welcome Tyler Welcome to Suriname

and just, just to clarify for you, because it’s always fun. We got guests here, but we don’t always tell our guests what the situation in Suriname is like. So basically, it’s Suriname. We have a couple. Skyscrapers like the, the, the, the tallest building in year is nine floors. You get that right? Nine floors, nine floors.

Yeah. Yeah. So, so just to put in perspective, because we don’t see it, like the viewers that are watching or the listeners, they can picture it. But when you show showed us your setup, you are just showing like this beautiful landscape and like skyscrapers, like 50 to a hundred of these at least 30 to 50 level.

Yeah. That buildings. And I was like, wow. And, you know, so it’s, it’s very confronting for us because we, we are quite in size. We are quite a big nation compared to even some smaller states. But when it comes to population, we’re half a million to be a $600. And, and again, we don’t, we have kind of like a sprawl city system.

So everybody. Sprawls all it from the center. Whereas like it’s very traditional. The, the, the, the skyscrapers are, everybody builds up, whereas we are like, yeah, we have enough space. So we just, we, we just crawl out. So, and I guess the first question that comes to mind is always I wanted to go to Hawaii, the Rotary district, I think the rule three world conference was in Hawaii in Honolulu was supposed to happen last year.

But then with COVID, everything kind of was like, it, it kind of never became manifested the way it should be, but I’ve always wondered, like how what’s the perception for people from the U S about Hawaii and, and how do the Hawaiians themselves perceive it? Is it like we are, we belong to United States, but we, we kind of are. Our own country or independent country, or is it like, no, we’re really one of the states of the United States of America. And we completely identify with the mainland for instance.

Tyler: [00:08:52] Yeah. So I guess it really depends for that question, like who you ask cause the more traditional Hawaiians, like from here like the Hawaiian people, you know, there’s still some hard feelings about the U S taking over the islands.

But for a lot, the rest of us were like kind of born and raised here. You know, I’m like fourth Japanese or fourth generation Japanese, second generation Korean over here. And for us, it’s growing up. It’s actually very unique, you know? And I think this perception is why, or this kind of idea is why a lot of people like to come to Hawaii, you know, like being born and raised here, it’s, everybody’s a minority, you know, there’s not like a super majority or something like that.

Being born and raised here, everybody’s a minority. So you kind of got to take the time to understand each other. And in general, like our society is kind of like a big community, you know? So we all look after you, one another kind of a thing. I know things haven’t been quite the same these days, because a lot of there’s been a lot of like tensions with mental health and whatever it may be going on with people.

But generally it’s, you know, everybody’s looking out for each other, you know, if we see a random kid like running across the street and we’re like, some people will be like, oh, whose kid is that? And you know, maybe we’ll go help chase them down here. You know, things like that. So it’s not really apathetic.

I’d say it’s more like it’s hard to describe. It’s like kindness, compassion, people coming together, like looking out for one another that’s that like epitomize is that spirit of Aloha, which is what makes Hawaii such a really wonderful place to visit. You know, when you come here, everybody’s so nice. every time I travel outside of the outside of Hawaii and I coming back home, I’m like, oh, Lucky we live in Hawaii

Diego: [00:10:25] quickly. Elaborate on what, you know, the spirit of Aloha means. Aloha. We usually get that from, you know, modern television, you

Jean-luc: [00:10:34] see angry, we just, yeah. It’s pop culture. We don’t really know what it’s about.

Tyler: [00:10:40] Yeah. So all of that was actually like people say, like use it as like hello and goodbye. But when you encompass like everything that it represents, like that’s what I feel the spirit of Aloha is. And that’s my perspective on being born and raised here. You know, it’s kind of everybody coming together in harmony.

And I don’t know about what the rest of the states think about us. But there’s like a re a really eloquent quote from John F. Kennedy when he visited Hawaii in 1963, I think it was, I don’t remember exactly the quote, but he said something along the lines of, you know Hawaii is like living in the future and these small island people are all there.

Represents the U S and all that we hope to be, you know, he was speaking to like that spirit of Aloha, that kindness, that warmth that we have over here, you know, that exception, all that inclusion that we have, because we’re all minorities. So there’s not really hate, you know, if anything, there’s a lot of sarcasm and stuff, but yeah, so that’s Aloha, you know, all that compassion, understanding coming together spirit of a law.

That’s what I would say

Diego: [00:11:39] from listening to you. It sounds like, like geographically Hawaii is in the middle of the Pacific, like between the east and between the west. And it brings together the best from the east and the west on a tiny island from the Pacific as well as well, because I feel like from what I’ve seen and what I read, there’s a lot of, you know, Eastern influence Pacifica influence on that.

And I think that’s where the communal part comes in because Asia and the Pacific are really community driven, you know, family life. So that, that’s what I feel like from just listening to your story. They’re bringing the best of both worlds.

Tyler: [00:12:13] That’s pretty correct. You know when you come here, it’s like, like I said, you’re going to get a lot of that east Asian influence, Pacific Islander influence of that community.

Everybody looking out for one another and then on the Western side, you know, we are American. So everything that comes with that, it’s like we have all those American things, freedom of speech and all that kind of stuff.

Jean-luc: [00:12:35] So let’s talk a little bit about the Asian of bringing, because in general, an Asian upbringing means you have to be the best or at least you have to try as hard as you can. So, so how did, how did that kind of include, was that kind of included in where you are now, like the way you were raised and how you do business?

Tyler: [00:12:57] Yeah, definitely. You know, actually, I, I never really thought of it like that, but now that I really think about it to answer this question. Absolutely. You know, when I was younger, I took like martial arts and it’s like, I always like tried my hardest.

I was a smaller kid back then. So I got beat up every which way anyway, but I tried, you know, I had that fire in their heart. And then that translated into music. You know, when I practice a lot of music, I played trumpet yeah, I practiced like hours a day, like five, six hours a day sometimes was the best in the state for my age range.

And even in IT when I did it, when I was in high school, same thing, and then fast forward to today, you know, not, it’s not so much of like me trying my best, but what is my best effort and having other people around me appreciate like, Hey, let’s, let’s work together and achieve this. I guess that’s very JCI thing. Yeah. But it’s helping other people recognize that they can also be great.

Diego: [00:13:48] So let’s go back to JCI a bit. And you said, you were the first to, you know, establish JCI Honolulu, and you did that, cause you said was kind of struggling beforehand over in that region. So from your looking back now, what would you say was different that you did from an organizations perspective that you were able to, you know, grow and scale that organization and actually set up a chart a chapter there?

Tyler: [00:14:18] Yeah. So I mean, setting up the chapter was like a whole can of worms in itself. You know, there’s all the business aspects that you gotta do. But it’s also like anything that you do in business, you know, people are what matters. You know, people are what are going to get things done. People are going to get things sold.

You know, people are going to consume your product. So when I started our chapter, JCI Honolulu back then? It was called Asian-American JC.  I thought to myself, like, what kind of organization would I want to be a part of? What kind of organization would I stick with? And I just ran with that, you know, so we had a culture of like a higher expectation, you know, very professional.

We definitely kicked back a lot of beers cause we worked so hard. But from organizational perspective, no, it’s just getting out there talking to as many people as you can, being very passionate about what you do doing what you do, the best that you can. And for me, like I looked at the other chapters in Hawaii. I looked at the other nonprofits in Hawaii. Sorry, I got some really loud car passing, but yeah, this

Jean-luc: [00:15:19] is really cool though. It makes it real that people understand like what the, what the life is like there, I think, well, we can talk about the lockdown that we have here later, but at least got the, your story.

Tyler: [00:15:32] Well, yeah, it’s like, I looked at the competition, you know, And I forgot who said, I think it’s Elon Musk. You know, if you’re coming into a marketplace with a new product or something, you got to either do something super different or just be super better than them to find your success. So that’s kinda like what we did.

I wouldn’t say that we’re super better than them, but I was more focused on like involvement for the members. So doing outstanding, like bigger, outstanding, cool projects and stuff to get them engaged. Cause that’s like, as, you know, five, six years down the line I’m in hindsight, that’s where all the growth and development comes from for the members.

And yeah, we did great projects. We recruited great people and that goes to like the initial board members. I think we had, you know, a lot of my friends and leaders in the community. I was like, I need your help with I think some people talk about like social currency and that’s like, I cashed in all of my chips at that time.

That’s kinda how we got that guilt that going in, you know, being about like 60 members now, I think the key thing is that we have very good structure. You know, our members are proud to be a part of the chapter. We’ve had incredible impact in the community. And that just goes to our members doing all that work and because they’re so proud and you know, our leadership bench I think is quite deep now.

So hopefully our chapter will be around for years and years and years. But yeah, so if I were to identify like one or two things, high expectation, you know, expectation of excellence and, you know, just not just reminding the guys and girls, not to be afraid to do crazy stuff. Especially in JCI you know, it’s like our entrepreneurial playground, how fun do cool projects

Diego: [00:17:03] What’s a crazy cool project that immediately comes to mind. When you look back that, you know, had the member riling up there. Yeah, let’s do this. It sounds crazy, but we can do it that really got that engagement going?

Tyler: [00:17:16] Pretty much all of our projects, but the first one we did, we did so in Hawaii robotics is very popular, you know, it’s and then when we survey the community, a lot of people were like, Hey, we’re very, we’re very passionate about education here in Hawaii.

So I was like, okay, what do we do? And then one of my friends was like an expert Drone racer on when he joined the chapter, he’s like, I’m really good at drones. And I love drones, I’ll say, okay, what do we do with that? Right. And I forgot when it was, I think in like 2016, they had the drone racing road championship in Dubai and like a 16 year old won that.

And I was like, we’re doing that right there. I don’t know what we’re doing, but we’re going to do it. And then after like some, some months of like thinking and going back and forth, we created like. I think the world’s first stem-based drone racing robotics program. it’s a pretty cool program.

It’s called the aero program. You guys can check it out on aerohawaii.org you guys in the audience or anybody want to check it out. we’re going into our fourth season because last year COVID totally, totally messed us up. But we’re going to probably have close to like seven or eight schools.

That’s based on the high school level. So it’s like an interscholastic, you know, drone racing competition, where they got to build their drone race, their drone. It’s pretty cool. It gives us like, I’m a nerd, I’m a huge nerd. So it gives like nerds, like me poor opportunity for like sportsmanship, you know, especially with the rise of like e-sports and stuff.

Yeah. So it gives them that competitive feel to play competitive sports, but flying drones. And it gives them all the stem-based education, which is awesome.

Jean-luc: [00:18:42] we would have to go into stem-based education a little bit as well, but, but you mentioned some interesting things you mentioned COVID so, well, actually there’s a question for both of you because I’ve been.

Well, I’m still involved. I’m actually not in JCI but I’m a Rotarian and I’m still in false in both the rotor act and interact. Not in JCI no, I’m not. I’m a Rotarian. No, I’m a Rotarian. So I, I’m not actually go back to to the JCI or any other organizations. I kind of went into the instant a little bit too young, but I stay young by being involved with the road with Rotaract and interact.

And actually I can offer what officially are officially. I can actually join Rotaract because the, they remove the age limits or I would be eligible again. But, but I think the biggest question I have is like, how did, how did COVID impact like youngsters wanting to. Help society. And I’m going to frame this question a little bit, but I’ll the answer you free to, to answer in which way you’d like at one of the recent youth events, we did, I noticed that there were a lot of youngsters who were interested in going into health science.

So that was really interesting, like a fairly high amount of teenagers that were like, we’re becoming doctors, we’re going to help in the healthcare industry and it, that it kind of felt, it felt great. But on the art side, I’m also wondering like, how has as this, this situation impact that like volunteering and doing voluntary work is a kind of like we have to wait until this is over art. Have you seen a drive towards wanting to be more involved because of the situation?

Tyler: [00:20:28] I guess I could start and Diego can follow up after that. You know, they say, you know, in times of crisis is when you see the real leaders stand up. And I, and we’ve really seen that last year in not just Hawaii and I’m sure it’s Suriname, but all across JCI you know, that’s how JCI we implemented our new project called JCI Rise to support economies and the members of the economies and invest in the members.

So that with a focus on like mental health and stuff really cool. But I’m glad you mentioned that Jean-luc of, you know, in JCI I know, I think maybe even a lot of other organizations, they talk about like youth and all that kind of thing. And when they talk about youth, they’re talking about us, you know, they’re not talking about the kids.

It’s like, I always forget that. Cause I’m like youth. Oh yeah. Like the element kids, you know? And, and it’s like, that’s awesome. But so yeah, like last year, you know, one of our members. Stood up real tall. And he, he designed and he designed like a cool student desk for distance learning for the kids in Hawaii.

You know, that that program raised about like 80,000 us. They distributed like 13,000 desks. And on the other side of the chapter, we had like some other programs that we did with one of our partners in Japan, we arrange a donation of like 80,000 masks and I’m like 10,000 sanitizer bottles for our public school system over here.

And so like, I think last year was the most we ever did. I think, oh, if I think about the dollar value, that was almost quarter million us, And I think when I think back and I tell them, talk to the members, I’m like, wow, you guys did that. You guys are awesome.

Jean-luc: [00:21:58] Can we quickly jump in on, on, on the desks? So can you just elaborate a little bit on, on, on what kind of desks?

Tyler: [00:22:05] I actually have one right here. So let me show you. It’s so random. Cause I accidentally took this thing home, but it’s so for the viewers and stuff before, right? It’s like a student desk because they’re in distance learning. People were having a lot of trouble finding furniture because everybody needed furniture at home.

So my friend was like, how can we make like an ergonomic thing? And he, you know, he put it through the design thinking gauntlet and then he came up with some cool iterations and then his wife came around and said, Hey, you know, like most people can’t afford that. We need something cheap that everybody can, everybody can access and stuff.

So that’s how they came up with this thing called Kiki does, and Kiki is like child in Hawaiian. So let me show you it’s so cool.

I don’t know if you guys can see this, but it’s like a little children’s desk, And then I don’t have space over here to like show you guys, but like it’s fully cardboard. Yeah. It’s fully card. And then there’s like a, what? I’m going to put this on the side. It’s like water resistant and stuff like that.

Well, actually there’s some diagrams I don’t know if you guys can see that. So it comes up like when it’s printed, it’s like a like a huge flat cardboard piece so we can easily distribute it. And then yeah, when they get it, they receive it. They can fold it in like one minute. It’s very sturdy, like a full-size adult.

Like I’m about like hundred 50 pounds us. I don’t know what kilograms that is. Maybe like 75 or something like that. But I can stand on that thing and it will break

Jean-luc: [00:23:37] Okay. That’s interesting. So we have some people in have that one right now and we are definitely road racing. Yeah.

Tyler: [00:23:48] Yeah, you guys want to do the drone racing program. We have all the infrastructure. You just have to find people that can fly drones that are willing to teach it. And it’s easy to implement at the school level. That’s how we designed the program.

Diego: [00:23:58] Oh, that’s cool. I think that’s definitely some ideas you’ve just thrown out at us. Edit. We can look at more deeply afterwards, but appreciate that. And to quickly comment on Jean-luc’s question to briefly answer from my perspective, 20, 20, I w that was kind of my recess year. I went away to study.

Jean-luc: [00:24:19] You had a sabbatical. Yeah, no, no, no, no. That’s not the right word. It’s not a right word because she actually did your master’s. So I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I shouldn’t say it like that. Sorry. Do you go?

Diego: [00:24:29] Yeah. No, but, but I, I was able to observe, you know, how the local chapters my successor and Follow up, handle the situation. And, and as Tyler said in times of crisis is when you see the most happening the most shift I think it was a struggle at first, you know, to adapt, but this forced people to actively change and look at the zoom meetings.

Now, do you know how many costs were safe of eliminating all those regular meetings basically showing up? And this actually drove engagement. This actually gave access to more people to connect. When I came back here, I looked in January the chapter at this, my chapter that I’m in kind of grew with 10, 15 new observers, potential members.

So it was. Tremendous growth. And if I look at the other organization as a whole, that the new chapter that’s being developed in Commewijne was also the pre-work was done in 2019, I think, but a lot of development happened over 2020. So I’d say that the pandemic kind of was a blessing in disguise for the organization for volunteer work, because people were more, you know, aware on the issues, the, the dangers also safety. So you keep everything account and we focus more on, you know my chapter is known for the environmental approach the green chapter. So you saw a lot of those spinoff effects happen. People taking it onto them to do certain stuff. So that’s my quick 2 cents on that.

Tyler: [00:26:07] Yeah, definitely. I mean, look at this, we’re like meeting right now. You guys are like, I dunno, how many hours ahead, like 16 or something like that just saves us, like at least $2,000 airplane ticket and hotel, not even including all of that, you know?

Diego: [00:26:21] Yeah. It’s been a whole paradigm shift in how to communicate and also how to network. And that, I guess immediately brings me to the next question on a networking side so fun fact Jean-luc. the thing that really got me that I wanted to invite Tyler to talk to him was when I saw his comment on Instagram, on a VeeFriend post and I DMed him

immediately, do you have a fee rate? Unfortunately, he said no, but that. Connected some dots. Okay. I kind of got a vibe of how Tyler was during the pitch competition the creative, young entrepreneurship. So I was already feeling him out there, but then it’s so much more resonated after that. And in the way he communicated then like, okay, now this is like a very, really interesting guy. And I think he has some unique perspectives. So that’s the networking part that, how that happened. So very serendipitous,

Jean-luc: [00:27:21] That definitely Tevin says that’s,  just, just to clarify if I just cut off right now, it’s, it’s pouring rain right now. So if my connection just disappears that, you know, I’ve, I’ve gone with the, yes, go ahead, Diego. We’re going to jump into some Gary fee. We’re going to talk,

Diego: [00:27:39] so, okay. Yeah. And adapt the topic of networking really quick. how has your. Approach shifted or been enhanced in the past year on how to network globally?

Tyler: [00:27:52] I think back to like my high school days, you know, like when I was in high school, I was kind of like, you know, I was more reserved and even like talking to girls and stuff, I was very like shy.

So I was very afraid to like ask girls out. But after high school, I was like, you know what? I have so much regret for not doing things. It’s not as like have no regrets, you know? So now it’s like, I don’t, I have no fear when I have to talk to people. It’s like, Hey Diego, you know, you’re doing a podcast.

That’s great. How do we find that? How do we build more value for your content? You know? And I just met Diego. I’m like, let’s do it. I dunno, how are we going to do it? Well, let’s do it because I find that very interesting. And it’s cool.

Jean-luc: [00:28:30] I do want to follow up on that. So. Because I’ve also been in a stage in my life where I said yes to everything. And then you reached a stage in your life that you’re doing too much. And I mean, when I look at your resume, like there’s a lot, there are a lot of things that you’re involved in. So for those of us that are in a similar space and kind of don’t know what to prioritize, because we kind of love doing everything we do. Like what would be your quick tips to say like how do you structure your life when it comes to making priority decisions?

Tyler: [00:29:09] Man, I feel like there’s so many, like better speakers on this, but it’s like focusing on what’s important to you, you know, because whatever you do, if it’s like a career or something, are you going to do that for life?

But at the same time, it’s like, you know, if you got to pay bills and put food on the table, don’t give up your day job just yet. You know? So it’s like she was my friend’s dad. I mentioned this, his name is Rainier, a good one of my best friends. And he’s like, my dad told me, you know, go to school, get your degree so you can pay the bills.

And then after your nine to five, then you got time to do your passion. And I was like, oh, that’s interesting. But I totally skipped all that. So I just went straight to my passion. It was a lot more tougher learning curve, but a way tougher learning curve. But you know, I don’t regret it at all. And now it’s just focusing on what’s important to you and I’m at a stage of life where I don’t have kids yet and stuff.

So I just focus on like, yeah. So I’m just kinda like doing my thing now. But definitely when I have kids, some of the stuff will scale back. Cause I’m gonna, you know, I want to be a good dad. I want to be there for my kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just do what you love, man. Do what you love and you don’t want what you love to do everything.

Yeah. If you don’t know what you love, figure it out.

Jean-luc: [00:30:22] I love your answer, especially being a good dad. I think being with dad was for me was one of my, so if you would ask me, like, what do you want to be later? You know, I would jokingly say, I want to be a bum I want to live on the streets, but pretty jokingly.

And one of the things that seriously is being a good dad. And I love how you talk to the, about the nine to five and after the five, because if you’re, if the way you describe it, like after five year, do what your passion is that it because great. So that’s also kind of, yeah. It’s, I mean, it’s, it’s, it’s very, it’s, it’s very hard for me because in those instances, laughing to show this show started, Hey, we’re in lockdown.

It’s after six feet and we don’t get to go out on the street at 6:00 PM. And I used to have meetings at night. I used to teach classes at night. And then I had all these nights that I was like, okay, I want to do something productive. And then I decided like, okay, Diego and I are going to do a podcast every Tuesday, which means that every Tuesday is booked and then life slowly gets back to normal.

And then every Thursday night is every Monday night is, and all of a sudden your family’s like, I thought we were your priority. so it’s, it’s exercise. And I think doing what you love is, is indeed something that’s very important because if you love your family, you’re going to find time for them. And if you love what you’re doing, you’re going to find time. Right. So I think that’s, that’s the only.

  Diego, can you take it over it? My internet

Tyler: [00:31:53] Diego, before you take over, you know, back to the family thing, I call that like the Mr. Rogers moment, you know, at that point in your life, when you’re like, let’s focus on doing good, being good and like, you know, just being a great person, you know everybody has it in them, but everybody has their own Mr. Rogers moment.

Diego: [00:32:10] I know Mr. Roger, but I, I think some people will get that reference, better

Jean-luc: [00:32:18] pop culture, Diego.

Diego: [00:32:20] Well, you know, you’ve got different days, but yeah, as Jean-luc said Rajiv tuned in and he said, Tyler is a master network or is being way too humble about it with that being said I, I, the topic of networking again. So you mentioned you when you started the chapter, you kind of, you said you cashed in, on social currency. So can you talk to us about the relationship between social currency and the power of networking and how that has worked out for you?

Tyler: [00:32:51] you know, I don’t want the viewers and stuff to think about currency as like something like tangible or something. Like there’s always expectation, how to describe it, it’s like giving with an open mind. All the time, you know, to all of your friends, regardless of how they are, like, whatever it may be, you know, somebody asks you something you give your most honest input. Sometimes you might have to go out of your way and that’s just, you know, cause you’re a good friend.

So like cashing in on the social currency, it’s not really like calling in favors and stuff. Sometimes it can be, but it’s more like, you know, as you’ve been giving with your open heart and just being genuine, straight up, I think people appreciate that. So you start building your building up your integrity, once you have that start, like it’s kind of established. it’s not really your, you have to call in favors. It’s like, they’re more willing to help you because they know like you’re a cool guy or whatever it’s going to be. So it’s not really like a currency thing. It’s like building up your integrity, building up your, your trustworthiness, you know?

So yeah, going back to like, when I started our chapter, it’s like I called all of my friends and I was like, I need your help. And that was like the first big push. And then in 2018, when I served as our state president for JCI Hawaii, I was like, wow, we got a lot of work to do. And I had to call them the favors again, I need your help.

And this is what I need help with, you know? And especially, you know, I call them like lightning rod moments. So it’s like, if you’re asking people for favor about something they’re already passionate about or something they’re willing to help you with anyway, it’s like, you guys are working together towards it.

You know? So my thing is like the world need more good people. What can we do together to help other people recognize that they are good people? Or what can we do together to like, enforce more better decision-making and altruistic thinking like that. And a lot of people resonate with. Um, Unfortunately what I like you guys, you guys had a great podcast.

I love that you guys are chasing your passion. You know, I, I tried to get into video editing myself last year. I’m not bad, but man, my YouTube thing about good news is horrible. I could do it. I could do a much better job on it, but I think it’s more more like got, learn how to view at this point. But um, yeah, you know, that’s, that’s been my thing ever since I became super active with the organization in like 2015 the world needs more good people and it’s not, like I said for the viewers, I gotta reiterate again.

It’s not like you’re doing favors and you’re asking for like, you’re, you’re going to call them like, Hey, you know, I did this for you. Not, that’s not the, that’s not the right thinking, you know, it’s, it’s like, Hey, you know, I’m going to help you out. Cause I, I think I can help you out and I’ll do my best job at helping you out.

And I’m never going to ask for anything in return. And even if one day when I’m like, Hey, you know, could you help me with this? And you say, no, that’s fine. But as you do this and you start getting out there and I guess building your social currency, it’s just building like your integrity, building up your integrity, building up who you are.

I guess maybe your social value. I don’t know if that’s a thing. I have no idea. You know, my friend dropped this term on me, like organizational IQ and like all that kind of stuff the other day. And I was like, what is that? And he’s like, you’re just high. And I was like, thanks whatever that is.  yeah, so it’s not really currency.

Jean-luc: [00:35:59] I love this quote that Susie took out of it giving it open-heart all the time and I guess that’s, that’s what it’s about. Yeah. A quick, a quick jump in from Andrew he’s as a nice guy. I said, Tyler he’s in the to backdrop. it’s, it sounds very much how quickly on a jump to do a little bit of Gary Vee where Gary Vee really brings a jab jab right hook,

Tyler: [00:36:22] that’s exactly. It,

Jean-luc: [00:36:24] it is a business sense, but, but the funny thing about it is like people try to use it as a tool, like a way to get a quick win. And that’s what you just said. It’s it’s about authenticity. Like if you’re going like jab, jab, right. Hook all the time, and you’re just jabbing to put all that right hook, you’re going to get

Tyler: [00:36:41] it work.

You’re going to get it right.

Jean-luc: [00:36:45] Yeah, it is. But it’s just not, it’s just not effective because you’re actually not thinking of giving first. And I think that that’s something that even just going through your LinkedIn LinkedIn profile, Kind of already establishes that you do every take, but an open heart and yeah, it’s like, I do want, I mean, of course there are other people that can give better advice, but I do want you to share to our viewers, like we have a lot of hardship at the moment we’re calling the really going through a rough phase because for us with COVID nodding is working, even though we’re, we’re kind of growing up and, and from, from the Caribbean, actually when one of the countries that has the most access to vaccines and we’re, we’re, we’re not being hit that hard compared to neighboring countries, but some countries are doing better, but we’re having a really hard time, especially youngsters between 20 and 40, who are used to going out will haven’t gone really properly gone out for, for over a year.

And then when they go out, it goes completely awful and goes completely wrong. So, so how do you, like in a, in a situation, right? You’re kind of surviving and it’s, it’s hard to give. Where do you find your, your energy from to, to keep giving it an open heart?

Tyler: [00:38:07] That’s just goes back to my original belief thing. You know, it’s, the world needs more good people, you know, and the more of us that can be better examples. I think the more chance there is that more people will follow you by example, you know, even like the people around you, you know, our chapter, my local chapters, I think we’re growing quite rapidly because people are consciously now like thinking, Hey, you know, let’s make these good decisions.

Yeah, I could do things in a certain way, but Hey Tyler is going to give me crap about it. You know, it’s like, like slowly by slowly, I think everybody can make a difference. We just have to try, you know, and you just have to believe. And that that’s a very, very, like a big cookie that you gotta imagine him bite one small bite at a time.

that’s what I believe. And it’s like, eventually people will come around, but to be very Frank it’s like, yeah, people are having a horrible time, you know, even in Hawaii, like during, during the middle of the pandemic, you know, you imagine people are having like better situation in America, but like when tourism stopped and everybody got laid off, it was not the best situation.

And that will seem the same across the world, you know, but that’s why it’s really important. And I think I really had to think about mental health. Like I’m a, I’m a firm. Like I pushed super hard in any of the initiatives that I do, but at the same time, we got to remind ourselves to take care of ourselves, if you can find some motivation to like help other people uh huh. Describe that. It’s like you, you find your happiness and giving to others. There’s like so many quotes for that. The other one, I just, I left a comment on somebody’s Instagram, you know? You, you spend your whole life finding your passion and then your purpose in life is to give it away.

I forgot who said that, but I wrote that on some of these Instagram posts the other day when I was dropping some knowledge. And I believe that, you know, but like what it is, what can we do to help the younger guys recognize that lead by example, get out there, you know, show that you support them, you know, get out there, be compassionate, you know, even small things like holding the door for the person behind you, you know, like I call it the good deed for the day.

You know, somebody throws trash on the floor. I’m not like, Hey bro, pick up your trash. I’m like, I’ll just pick this up. Whatever. Or like returned a shopping cart thing. You know, it’s like small things like that go a long way. And I think the more, the more people out there that lead by example, like I said, the higher chance it is that we can all make a difference.

So you guys are there. You guys can make a difference. All right.

Diego: [00:40:42] Definitely everybody has it in him. I think that’s, he mentioned that yeah, when we went to COVID it tourism took a huge hit and all over the world and Hawaii is one of those, you know, touristy places I’m not sure how much exactly of on local economy depends on it, but you yourself have your own, you know, your own business.

You’re very entrepreneurial yourself. Nice. The other part of the conversation that we wanted to look at and basically how that has impacted your business, but also on a more macro scale, because I know the idea you submitted kind of expanded or grew out of the, the jewelry business that you’re, you’re already running. So can you tell us a little. About that, how that impacted you and how that has shifted or, you know changed your thinking on doing business?

Tyler: [00:41:39] So actually it’s not just the, the COVID that changed my perspective on business. It’s been my opportunity with JCI you know, to be more of like a global thinker, you know?

So when I think I, when I used to do jewelry sales, I think like selling one piece, one piece, one piece, one piece, and like those one pieces of jewelry. Yeah. You know, they, they can be like several months salary sometimes. But long-term sustainability, you know? So with the, when COVID hit, you know, my sales were like pretty abysmal.

People had to cancel all their weddings and stuff. So I lost a whole bunch of clients. And then, you know, I pivoted real quick to starting consulting company because I had already been helping a bunch of people do like design work, web work advising on their social media and whatnot. So fortunately now finally, like a year later slowly we’re getting paid for that.

But even on the jewelry side. So the Diego mentioned what I submitted for the creative young entrepreneur program. It’s hopefully going to be like a global luxury brand. That’s emphasized that emphasizes like lifting people up, you know, when you wear it, it’s like wearing Aloha reminding you to like, be a good person to think.

Good. And obviously like we’re going to infuse all of our JCI values into that brand. But on the macro picture, it’s, you know, I’m looking at not just having it in Hawaii, you know, I want to have it in Japan. I want to have it in maybe Suriname, you know, Korea, Southeast Asia, maybe in Australia for Australian viewers over there, but it’s, it’s really, you know, for long-term it’s like instead of one piece of selling one piece of jewelry at a time, I’d rather sell like 20 to 15, it’s a lot easier.

And then creating that supply chain was the, I think probably the most interesting part of that experience. And then the next part is just pitching it to people to buy. And I think cross fingers, I think we’ll, we’ll have a good shot, but we’re always looking at ways to improve, you know? But I like so going to the macro thing as well, you know, for the viewers, it’s not just, when you think about like your job and your passions and your life and work and stuff, I really strongly suggest you think about like what your life is going to be like in 5, 10, 15, 20 years, because you know, this jewelry job that I have, it’s been good for like a whole month, the whole bunch of years.

As the branding thing goes, it’s going to be less responsibility for me, I think as I build the brand. And then there’s other things that I’m also working on too, that I feel is very important to me. One is care homes. So I am going to be I’m working on the business plan for that as well, especially with all my experience with creative young entrepreneurs.

But you know, in doing all these things, I’m looking at elements in my life that I need, you know, like pieces of the puzzle that I need for my family to sustain us for hopefully generations. And hopefully, you know, maybe this consulting thing that I’m doing you know, I’m not going to abandon my customers as I grow my other projects, you know, hopefully I can turn this small idea and this project into like a big agency, you know, maybe we can work with Diego and Jean-luc over there to do some like media.

But as we expand, you know I, I think there’s no secrets and there’s limitless that it’s like, you can learn as much as you want, what transitions later on it’s what values do you have and how do you, how are you going to deliver the best experience to your clients, to your customers?

You know, how do you provide value to them? You know, Gary says that all the time, right? Provide like disproportionate value and that’s, that’s how you win you know, you don’t always ask you don’t always give the right hook. You just give with an open heart and Hey, a lot of people appreciate that. I think. So yeah, in the macro picture, it’s I like to think of things that I am going to need.

So the care home one is from my parents and the jewelry thing. I just love jewelry. So that’s, that’s kinda like my thing. I’m not the great greatest artists, but when I can design a concept and see it come to life, I think that’s amazing. And the media side, that’s just, cause I love Gary. So it’s like, Hey, you know, I’ve been following Gary ever since his wine library.

So, you know, every, every, every little note, every step along the way. Wow. Like notebooks like this, the book.

Jean-luc: [00:45:33] Yeah. That’s so for 10 years. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Okay. That’s

Tyler: [00:45:38] definitely a pioneer, but you know, that goes back to like anybody can figure it out. That’s what I think you just look at the people who you look up to that are like pioneers in the industry. Elon Musk, obviously. Great visionary. Gary totally changed the game on like social media. You know, people like that. Just look to them, look at their behavior, look at how they do it, why they do it easy to learn, just got to put in the effort. And that’s the hard part.

Jean-luc: [00:46:03] That’s, that’s a very good take.

Diego: [00:46:06] Just before you go.

I think we found someone who is more, you know into Gary content and wish handbook because Tyler Jean-luc quest is the person I know who is really most into Gary. Scott was, it’s really interesting.

Tyler: [00:46:21] There’s no who loves Gary more? We all have Gary.

Jean-luc: [00:46:25] We all love Gary. I think there are two things for me with Gary.

I, I kind of lean towards Gary when I need a push. did. That’s also the way, I mean, one of the things he also says, like, if you’re constantly just watching my content and consuming my content, you’re not actually doing it. So that’s, that’s one of the interesting things. So for me, it’s definitely when I need a push, I rarely watch Gary V.

He got, but I watch it when I, I just need a push I’m, I’m stuck. I’m not moving. And I need a quick, like, snap, like get awake, go for it.

Tyler: [00:46:56] It’s funny. You mentioned that. So actually during my year as state president, we were in discussion with his management company to bring him down as like a speaker and do an event in Hawaii.

And then it didn’t work out, but my other friend was telling me, so you’re going to fly Gary down here. Just talk shit to you and tell you to do whatever I was like, hell yeah. That’s I would totally do that. I was going to be the greatest experience ever, you know? And he’s like, you’re crazy. And I was like, of course I’m crazy, but that’s why I’m, that’s why I’m crazy.

That’s why I’m Tyler, you know,

Jean-luc: [00:47:23] there’s so many great Gary V stories. We, we are there. I also somebody who wanted to get him here. And then when I asked like really the fee and they were like, no, it’s gotta be like online event. And I was like, oh, is going to be that much money for the fee.

I was like, oh, so, and then just, just realize like, you know yeah, this, this is next level, but the thing I love, the, the, the thing for me that I also, aside from like, I’m, I really respect them. There’s also personal, personal connotation to like how I got to know him because I actually didn’t know him.

And DRock who was like, one of his guys from the film crew, like is, his main video guy D rock and, and his former business partner in San Diego. And I think 2014 and they were talking in the other guy with Nick was saying like, yeah, David’s going to do a video for Gary Vaynerchuck and I was like, who’s Gary Vaynerchuk.

You know, that was like, when I was just really that actually that trip kind of that trip on itself, that was like, when you talk about career defining or game changing or life altering moments, that trip for me was the first time I really considered it. Social media as like being part of the rest of my future.

Like before that it was just going to be, I’m going to probably end up in tourism. I’m probably just going to do something that I studied that this media stuff is fun, but it’s not an, I think that trip kind of did the first stringer. But then again, what you just mentioned is you just have to watch the people.

So it’s not like read everything, Elon says but it’s more and watch the way that they move, watch the way that they actually work within the

Tyler: [00:49:14] yeah. More so why they move in that way, you know, and as Jean-luc cuts up, that’s a good transition, but it’s like why they move? Why they do things in their way? You know? It’s like, why, why is he doing that? It’s so crazy. Oh, that’s why, but you know, like, you know how Gary said. You’re either in the clouds or the dirt and he prefers to eat the dirt. And I think there’s one episode where he just shoved his face through the dirt. Am I right? Am I right? Somebody’s got to look that up, but I, I swear to God there was one like that, but that’s, that’s totally me as well.

You know, I enjoy just getting into the dirt, getting in the weeds,

Jean-luc: [00:49:46] clouds have dirt. It’s like one of the first, I think that’s actually one of the movies that D rock made to get into to get into, to to the company then I think

Tyler: [00:49:56] that’s so awesome.

Jean-luc: [00:49:57] Yeah. But at the time, like, it’s really fun because like the whole group, the whole group, like, I, I sometimes wonder if he understands. Like how we look up to him, because for him it’s like kind of awkward because when we met, we were like, kind of doing similar stuff. And like, for us, like most of us who met him at a time for us as he’s kind of a legend.

And, but for him, it’s weird. It’s for him. It probably is. I don’t know if it’s weird, but I I’m guessing it’s weird for, for him that we, we accept that he’s a legend for us, whereas it’s, you know, it’s kind of hard when we just talk and, and like in 20 years time, you’re the president you’re, you’re, you’re in the Senate from Hawaii and you were like, and, and, and the politics in the U S and you’re like really well known.

And we’re like, we don’t Tyler from back when he was a guest and Social Confoes, and now he’s actually in the state Senate and the U S you know, kinda thing. So like, it’s, it’s really hard for people to understand, like on one hand, like, yes, we, we kind. It’s like someone you know as a, as a youth friend who kind of like was your buddy, but then all of a sudden is somebody really high up and it’s kind of hard to reach and, you know, we used to be like, could just call you up, man.

And unfortunately for me, it’s tough. And I, and I, I’m going to be honest what, what the toughest part is, and maybe you can help you because you’re very open-hearted and very heartfelt. So for me, it’s really tough there probably around the a hundred people that I want to call up or should talk to for at least an hour, just to catch up,

Tyler: [00:51:45] just do it.

You know, D Rock like, I’ll comment on his Instagram page and he’ll drop me like some cool likes or like, he’ll respond to the comments, you reach out to him and you actually know that guy, dude, do you know D rock man? It’s like, you should. You know, he’s probably super busy as hell, you know, and you’re probably going to have to schedule that guy like next year or something, but, you know, he’s still human, you know, it goes back to what I say in the beginning.

Right. You just gotta be fearless. Got it. And then it’s like, we’re all human, you know, you’re not a douche bag. He’s a cool guy.

Diego: [00:52:21] Yeah. I just wanted to comment on that, Jean-luc because it is very ironic that you say that now, and the whole time we’ve been talking about networking, pandemic, opening up opportunities, reaching out to people and, you know, giving being open.

This has given us the push to reach out to people regardless of where they are. And I think this illusion of them being there, I get that from. A certain aspect, but from my recent experiences, especially online events, I’ve been a part of the, the fellowship I’ve been, I I’ve gotten to know a lot of people are seeing how a lot of people, you know, in Silicon valley operate in every part of the world.

And they are also, you know, humble and open. Obviously some of them have bigger things to do. I have less time on their fleet, but if you generally, you know, contribute comment, give feedback on someone or just show some appreciation. I think. They will reciprocate in some way or another. Look at Tyler.

For example, I met this guy five minutes in the competition and was like, okay, let’s just give it a shot. So and I, I think this podcast, I I’ve had that thinking before as well, but this podcast was one approach me, you know, and have shifted thinking, being more willing or just taking the step if they say no. Okay, great. But you’re not expecting anything and that, that’s how we’re looking into getting, yeah. Talking to more people

Tyler: [00:54:01] and build up on that real quick. So, you know, as I look, don’t get me wrong, I totally know exactly what you’re talking about. It’s like, cause he is such an idol, right? It’s like you kind of, you kind of freeze from when you’re like, oh, oh my gosh.

You know, before you send the DM, like even me, I had that recently, like a couple years ago when I met our JCI world president, which is from America Dawn Hetzel And then, um, I saw her at the airport on a connecting flight and I was like, I was going to be like, Hey, world president Darn and I ran over there and I was like, oh my God, I can’t do it.

She’s just word president. I can’t do it. And I actually had to wait for like a whole nother trip, like a year later before I could get the courage to talk to her. So that’s a funny story, but you know, whenever you collect yourself, just send them a message, you know, Hey, maybe D rock is watching this show right now.

D rock. If you’re watching this, you have to get on this podcast. This is your friend. You know, we need you, man. You inspire millions of people. Okay.

Jean-luc: [00:54:55] I’m gonna make a quick commitment because there’s also question for you in a common styler for everybody watching here and listening to this, this podcast, I’m going to make a commitment.

I’m going to have a weekly virtual drink every week from now on. It’s going to be not going to be. Because that’s another thing, like it’s three of lag. Yeah. Let’s do this for the content. Yeah. I’m just going to have a virtual drink every week from now on. And I’m just going to go to the list because the list is there, there’s a list of at least 50 people there that I’m going to go to.

And I’m going to sign up and say like, Hey, do you have 50 minutes left? Let’s have a virtual drink and it will roll up for dev, but this is the commitment we’re making. So you guys are watching or listening to this, you got to keep me up and you got to remember that it was Tyler in episode 25 of Social Confoes that really? And Social, and kind of like pulled out the whole script and said like, we’re gonna go a different route today. So Tyler, a quick question for you. We are all human, so we all face self-doubt. How do you stay courageous and keep going?

Tyler: [00:56:08] That’s that’s a hard one because. And even me, like, I’m human. I beat myself up, bought it a lot, but it’s the small wins like you do every day. That motivate me every day. So it could be just like, you know how that Navy seal guy said, start, start today by making your bed. You know, I’m just doing small things. Like I have a huge, huge executable list that looks like, I dunno, like, like a whole page, you know, a pages and then you just get through some of them.

And like those small wins, it’s like, yeah, I can do it. I can do it. But at the same time, one of my friends, one of my best friends from like way back. So that is kind of like a, not everybody can do that thing, you know, but that’s why there’s people out there like Gary or some motivational people like the Instagram pages, you know, like I like to fall house leaders founder and all those guys.

Cause they keep motivating, you know, I fill my content feed with all these kinds of things. So I’m like, oh yeah, I can. Oh, I better get on top of my stuff. Oh, I gotta do this. You know, it’s like nice reminders and wins and reminders and definitely the people around you. And there’s nobody around me that tell me like, Hey, you can’t do that.

They’re going to be like, that might be kind of crazy. I don’t know if you can do that, but I’m sure you’re going to find a way, like at what cost is that going to be? And I’m like, oh, that’s the question. Yeah. Maybe not, maybe not today.

Jean-luc: [00:57:28] That’s a very good fighter feedback fighter.

Diego: [00:57:33] That’s a, that’s a good way to, you know, bring the social aspect of social accountability back to this. And it kind of goes both ways. Right. As you mentioned before, before on the currency is it’s not really a currency, but if you fail yourself with this circle for accountability and just giving, but you’re not expecting anything, they also hold you accountable without you realizing it. It’s a two way thing.

Tyler: [00:57:58] Even more so, right. Like my thing is we can’t change people, you know? Cause everybody has different experiences, but if you grew up and you became a good person, that means like collectively through your whole life, you’ve been making these decisions to be a good person. Right. So my, my next phase of stuff that I’m going to do, hopefully with JCI stuff is like, how do we get to the younger generation so they can start when they’re kids, you know, when they’re young, they don’t know hate, they don’t know racism, they don’t know discrimination.

So you just teach them compassion and kindness and stuff that I think that is the way forward, you know? But how we do that, I don’t know we’re going to have to do that everywhere. So you guys watching that’s up to you. That’s my challenge to you guys, you know, get out there, tune into the podcast and watch all the amazing things.

You know, when Jean-luc brings on a D rock, oh man, that’s going to be a great podcast. You know, I’m going to be there.

Diego: [00:58:46] Yeah. And I just watch execute. That’s where it is as we already said execute. But I guess this brings me. Through the wind down to the last part of this episode, we’ve talked about Gary, a lot, talked about, you know, JCI and a bit of know your business as well and networking and there’s a theme that’s been going on. It. It’s a long game, you know, in the long term, but what you’re doing for the future. So for you, what’s the current long game of, I wouldn’t say current long game, what’s your long game play right now. What can we expect from Tyler

Tyler: [00:59:23] Long game? I’m just going to keep doing what I’m doing. Like my clouds thing is, you know, con like conceptualizing these different businesses that I’m working on these projects, I guess you could call them for my own personal self and my family.

Right? So while I’m doing that on the other side of the stuff, I’m heavily involved in JCI side, because that’s what I’m passionate about. You know, I feel like I really, really am super passionate that the world needs more good people. Cause that’s how we’re going to make sustainable change everywhere in the world.

Different perceptions, you know, people being less greedy and just doing things out of compassion and kindness. I think that is like, I found my happiness in life, not through working super hard and not through like, doing all these kinds of businesses, things, my passion, or my happiness came from giving to other people and giving to the people around me.

And, you know, I had a, I had a really good chat with are, are actually this year is JCI executive vice president from Asia Pacific Teresa. And she said, you know, just keep giving and, you know, the universe will give it back. And I really believe that. So it was a great conversation that I had with her on that.

So all you guys out there, like thinking about it all you can afford to give, just give like a minute or two, you know, do something because it’ll come back and I think the more you give, the more confidence you have in giving because it’ll make you feel. Pretty good. I think so, you know, that’s where I find my happiness and I think if more people do that, that’s maybe where you’ll find yours too.

Diego: [01:00:46] if people want to connect you to you learn more about you about the JCI Honolulu and even your jewelry business, how it can, they,

Jean-luc: [01:00:55] we also gotta plug the tables though. We also got applied the table desks, the Tiki desks.

Tyler: [01:01:01] So the desks thing, it’s keikidesk.com. If you, if wherever in the world you’re from, you want to put in a big order of the minimum orders, 2000, I think that project is awesome.

There, the cost of all like $6 each, not including freight. If you want to follow me my with decide, decide my Instagram handles right here, check it out. Just like all these guys. I’m really good on the DMs if you’re out there, if you haven’t joined the JCI chapter or rotary chapterlike Jean-luc, you know, get out there and do something, you know, it doesn’t cost you anything to do something, you know, you can make a difference.

And I think that’s the biggest message of everything that I would say today. You can make a difference. Don’t forget it. I’ll give everybody the links to all the other cool stuff that we’ve been doing too though. So you can have everything in the description on the podcast.

Diego: [01:01:47] Eh, you, you, you, you, you have this natural host tendency segwaying from Jean-luc just before. So who knows maybe a podcasting host in the near future.

Tyler: [01:01:56] I’m down to help whoever I can, you know,

Diego: [01:02:00] but yeah, appreciate it. Tyler, appreciate you spending your afternoon. Yeah. Bright afternoon with us sharing your journey with us and just It’s really fresh, give a fresh wholesome and perspective on how to look at life to give. And that’s a really, really big theme I’ve noticed coming from you and everyone in there with doing the end from the comments really cool that the, you, as you mentioned, you’re from Australia really awesome that we are reaching every part of the world kind of in a way. as you know, this episode will be released on Saturdays and the podcasting platforms site is being updated as we speak where slowly building things up we’ve added some newsletters.

So subscribe to the newsletter. There’s no content yet, but who knows in the medium to longterm, there might be some juicy content coming your way. So sign up for our newsletter on your website and Jean-luc final words, and then you could roll this out.

Jean-luc: [01:02:57] Yeah, I just, I want to thank Tyler because this was so much more of a Social Confoes. Kind of Social Confoes that we’re actually going for. So thank you for that, Tyler. And, and I also want to thank the viewers the viewers on Twitter and especially one simultaneous fewer on, on Twitch, who, for my opinion, like the, the numbers went up, but there were some people that stayed the whole episode on a platform that we just introduced today.

So that’s pretty cool. So for those watching on Twitch channel Twitter, we really appreciate you joining in for those who have been active on YouTube and LinkedIn and Facebook in the comments. You know, we love you. And as always, this has been Social. Confoes see you next Tuesday at nine o’clock Eastern time or the other listings lobi from Honolulu, Hawaii. and from Paramaribo Suriname. See you next time.